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ISSUE 955/JUNE 2025 

 

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Patriotic Friday feast, anyone?

*#**#!


Why a claimant should’ve kept it clean.

Get out your squeezebox

What we should all be more aware of this June…

 
 

To eat now, please…

 
 

Picture the scene. A typical summer’s day by the British seaside. The waves are crashing. There’s a Force 8 and intermittent drizzle. And a well-built seagull eyeing you with intent.

But you don’t care because your face is buried in steaming paper, inhaling cod in batter and chips liberally doused with salt and vinegar. You’re in fish ’n’ chips heaven.

Tomorrow is the tenth anniversary of the first National Fish & Chip Day. Remember to announce this as you explain why you’re not cooking but patriotically following the tradition of Fish on Friday.

There’s something very nostalgic about hot, salty, vinegary chips from a bag as you walk home. Only a Daily Echo wrapped around it could make it more nostalgic. Remember the days when your hot meal was served with a side of newsprint? Aaaaah…

Fish and chips is part of the national identity, of course. So much so that Winston Churchill refused to put this classic supper on the rations list during World War II — and the code for identifying true Brits during the D-Day rescues was to shout ‘Fish!’ at anyone who might have been an enemy soldier, and await the ‘Chips!’ reply before trusting them.

Me? I used to love a battered sausage back in the day* but I’m more a cod girl now. And quite partial to a mushy pea fritter with tartar sauce. And epic amounts of vinegar on the chips. Enough vinegar to briefly choke off your windpipe you when the vapours hit.

I don’t hold with mayonnaise or cheese or gravy anywhere near my chips, but I try not to judge those who want these freakish things.

But what about the bits of batter left over? The scrapings scooped out of the hot fat? Are you into that? If so, you’ll have a word for them and it’ll likely depend on where you live.

It’ll probably be: Scraps | Bits | Dubs | Gribbles | Scrumps

On the other hand, these might be the firemen in Camberwick Green. (Click the link, under 40s, and educate yourselves!)

* Behave

 
 
 
 


 

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Expulsion over expletives

 
 

And speaking of shouting ‘Fish!’ brings me to the less elegant language used by a claimant in the case of Duncan v Fujitsu Services LTD 2025, and an employer’s response to an employee with ADHD and ASD sending sending inappropriate and highly offensive online message.

Mr Duncan was employed by Fujitsu Services LTD from September 2017 as a Graduate Trainee and later promoted to Software Developer until he was dismissed for gross misconduct in April 2021. From the start of his employment, managers at FSL were aware that Mr Duncan had Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder (ADHD) and Autistic Spectrum Disorder (ASD) and accepted that these amounted to a disability under the Equality Act 2010.

Mr Duncan brought a grievance which was dismissed in January 2021. Part of Mr Duncan’s evidence for his grievance consisted of logs of messages on Slack, a software platform licensed by FSL for its employees to communicate with each other. The logs included messages between Mr Duncan and two other colleagues, Mr Welek and Miss Shelton, which contained inappropriate and offensive language, including threats of violence and multiple uses of foul language.

FSL investigated all three employees. Following the disciplinary procedure, Mr Welek was dismissed without notice and Miss Shelton received a final written warning. Mr Duncan was invited to a disciplinary hearing in March 2021, he subsequently emailed the week prior to this saying he would not be able to attend but implied that the hearing should proceed in his absence. The disciplinary manager requested further information regarding Mr Duncan’s disability and a copy of the Occupational Psychologist’s report; however, he did not send a copy or engage further in the disciplinary process.

In April 2021, Mr Duncan received the outcome letter which dismissed him without notice. He appealed this decision but subsequently failed.

Mr Duncan then filed claims for unfair dismissal and discrimination arising from disability to the Employment Tribunal.

The claims failed. The ET found that although some of the offensive messages could have arisen from Mr Duncan’s disabilities, FSL’s actions in dismissing Mr Duncan was justified as a proportionate means of achieving legitimate aims of preventing the use of threatening language, harassment and other behaviour that may lead to a hostile environment, and threats of violence against colleagues.

Mr Duncan then appealed the decision to the Employment Appeal Tribunal.

He argued that the reasoning for the offensive messages was due to his frustration at the way FSL had treated him and the lack of reasonable adjustments implemented. Mr Duncan had not previously argued that his language in the messages was itself because of his disabilities (i.e. that his disabilities caused an "involuntary loss of control of emotion" and he didn't "understand social rules"), so he could not now appeal on that basis.

The EAT dismissed the appeal, going on to find no direct link between Mr Duncan’s language and his disabilities as there was no evidence of this sort of language outside of the Slack messages. The EAT also noted that Mr Duncan has edited the messages when initially disclosing them to FSL, indicating that he was aware of the possibility of FSL regarding the comments as misconduct.

Mr Duncan also argued that the ET erred in analysing whether dismissal was fair, as the ET did not appear to have considered options short of dismissal. The EAT upheld the ET’s decision. The ET had described the comments as “very strong examples of foul language and abusiveness towards colleagues” and determined that Mr Duncan should have been aware of the possibility of FSL finding these messages given they were sent on FSL’s communication platform during working hours. The EAT also noted that there was no evidence of reassurance from Mr Duncan to FSL that his actions would not be repeated. The EAT confirmed that the ET had considered options short of dismissal, but agreed that the FSL’s decision was a reasonable conclusion to reach.

This case highlights the delicate balance between upholding standards of conduct in the workplace and fulfilling obligations under the Equality Act 2010. While employers must make reasonable adjustments for employees with disabilities, this case confirms that such protections do not exempt individuals from accountability for serious misconduct, particularly when behaviour threatens workplace safety or dignity. The ET and EAT judgments reinforce that dismissals can be lawful and proportionate, even where disability is a contributing factor, provided employers act reasonably, follow a fair process, and are clear in their legitimate aims.

It serves as a vital reminder for organisations to maintain robust policies, ensure managers are trained in handling complex disability-related issues, and document decision-making carefully to withstand legal scrutiny.

 
 
 

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Jubilant June

 
 
 

Who doesn’t love June? Warm, sunny, covered in blossom (as I write this it is, naturally, tipping down).

Apparently a European study once suggested people born in June have a naturally sunnier outlook on life. I can’t be sure that’s true, but as I’m born at the far end of the calendar I assume that makes me naturally a grouch.

Which, of course, I’m not. And don’t let me hear anyone say otherwise before I’ve had my breakfast or else.

What’s also amusing about June is that it’s named for Juno, the Roman goddess and protector of marriage and women.

And yet it’s also International Men’s Month. And Father’s Day halfway through. Not that I have a problem with fathers or, indeed, International Men. Or accordions. Because (stick with me here) June is also Accordion Awareness Month and lord knows, we must ALL become a bit more aware of accordions.

I think we should all give the above some serious thought.

 
 

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